IT can take a lot of effort to destroy America as the UAW shows.

The UAW is a Democrat Ponzi Scheme designed to sink the US

Recently, a neighbor and friend, was making the point that the reason that the car industry and the country’s economy were collapsing was because of unions. You know, those outdated collective institutions of the past two centuries that are blamed for having brought the most powerful economy in the world, first to stagnation, and now to regression. Never mind, that unions were responsible for making the U.S. economy as great as it once was and the time before that, and before that. Never mind that unions and workers built the biggest middle class in world history. Never mind that unions gave a single bread-winner in a family the ability to support it, buy a home, and send the kids to college. Never mind that unions are the collective voice that can stand up for the workers and fight exploitation. And never mind, that when workers hit the golden years, that unions brought them the ability to retire on a comfortable pension.

People have been heard saying that unions have been scamming the people for so long now that everything is falling apart. Yesireee. Did you happen to notice that when Wall Street collapsed that the United States government handed the bankers and securities people all those billions of dollars without any accountability? It wasn’t the unions that received all that money. You didn’t know that none of the millions of taxpayer/worker dollars headed into the pockets of the union membership and workers? No? You did notice, didn’t you, that all those CEOs and upper management people who received bailouts, golden parachutes, bonuses and incentives, that they were not union members? They were not.

I guess what bothers and rankles my feathers is how any working person in the USA can blame other workers for the wages that they receive or for the problems in the economy. Doing so, in my opinion, shows a disregard or ignorance for U.S. labor history. It highlights the success that the owning class has had in pitting worker against worker while absconding with the material wealth that all workers have collectively created. CEO’s don’t create any new wealth. Workers do. And destructive Capitalist CEOs, and the owning class, do nothing but manipulate the labor and commodity-money-commodity exchanges so that all wealth can trickle up from the worker on the bottom to the CEOs at the top. The owning class has been doing this for centuries. They have been riding the worker-created gravy train during the times of Capitalism’s boom cycle while blaming the worker for Capitalism’s bust cycle. The owning class always wins. The working class, however, has been trained by them, to blame itself when the bust arrives. Welcome to the bust.

Every clause in that contract was negotiated and agreed to by representatives of both labor and management.

Get with the 21at century- it’s 10 kilograms.

Lowtechs!!! Third world are better bcoz they put it in a 700MB CD PDF format. Rather than a 2000pages of coupon, besides UAW are the same as coupons

That is exactly why when in the past I’ve been approached by union reps I’ve told them to go suck an egg.

Unions hurt business’s over the long run, when business’s hurt, WE lose jobs.

The “Big Three” are drowning in rules and regs from the UAW and the Federal Government.
It’s wonder they’ve lasted this long.

Unions outlived their usefulness in the 1960′s. By that time, government had all the rules and regulations necessary to prevent the abuses that unions were supposedly initiated to prevent. Since that time, unions (mostly controlled by the mafia, especially Teamsters) used strong-arm tactics and threats of strikes to negotiate contracts that were outrageous and unfair to non-union workers. They tipped the scales in favor of overpayment of workers, skimming profits and union dues for illegal activities, and political power garnered through intimidation.

The auto industry was the most affected because after the unions put the screws to them, they opted to move the majority of their operations outside of the country. There is not one vehicle made in America that is completely US made. Parts, electronics, motors, all of this is made in other countries. Yet the unions continued to pressure the industry, and the greedy CEO’s continued to give themselves the lion’s share of any profits while agreeing to outlandish union demands, continually running their companies into the ground.

The big 3 had ‘gone under’ long before the current economic crisis. Union power was waning, and instead of taking advantage of more freedom to update and rennovate their companies, CEO’s grabbed all of the money they could get their hands on, knowing full well that their companies would collapse under the weight of mis-management and existing union contracts. Plenty of blame to go around, but the initial demise falls clearly at the feet of the unions.

In part yeah but governmental regulations and political corectness as well – they need to stop being babies and do what they do make cars and not worry about “political corectness” and cowering to the unions
although easier said than done but If you They are desperate enough and pathetic enough to go to the government and willing to have a carzar then they should be willing to do the fore mentioned and even more so since then they will retain control and not give over some of their power to part of the problem. It is all crazy – but then maybe we are all just living-room quarterbacks

I think it will make good fire starter or fuel for those with fireplaces, that’s the only positive energy it could possibly contain

I think they have one hell of a nerve to bite the hand that feeds them!

Yea, I asked the same question, this is exactly why the Big 3 are going under. See mine, the link to the documents has been removed for some reason. I went off on some of the responders. lol

Botrh management and the UAW have guilt in this matter and both should be forced to take drastic cuts in pay and benefits. The retirees should not be given medical for life. The problem is not in the wages paid, they are about 15% higher then the non-union “Foriegn: auto workers but in the benefits. The UAW can bargain with benefits and threaten a strike because they have the state of Michigan behind them; Michigan has the most union friendly rules in the US-I did not say worker I said union-so the UAW striking basically shuts the plants down. They asked for benefits instead of higher wages because they knew the Big Three could not afford wages but cost of benefits if in the future. The Big Three should file bankruptcy and then reorganize and get out of the mountain of costs involved with those benefits. They should also move the plants out of Michigan and let the unions support the state instead of the unions getting the businesses to do so. For the answer on Daimler bailing out Chrysler-rysler was sold and Damler has no ownership. For CEO’s not creating wealth-How do workers create wealth without a company? From what I see the UAW is interested in nothing but the betterment of the UAW and not concerned at all about creating wealth for the country-They would require 40 hour pay for a one hour work week if they could get away with it ad with their “Job Banks” it is not that far off; that allows you to collect 38 hours pay for getting laid off and then soing nothing. High wages do allow workers to buy more but it also requires higher prices which means you can afford to buy less so it is a balance that is needed and paying higher wages might hurt the economy as much or more then help it.